Tuesday, May 20, 2025

Holodomor???

 There is no question that there was a Holodomor, but there is a big question about, 'What was it???'

I checked Google and Wikipedia, and all the Google sources I found, including Wikipedia, were in complete agreement: it was an attempt by the Russians to commit genocide on the Ukrainians: all the food in the Ukraine was shipped to Russia and there was mass starvation in the Ukraine. Only a few survived, and they all know that Russia want to finish the job, and that is why Putin ordered a totally unprovoked attack on the Ukraine in 2022. The Ukraine and just about all of the EU and NATO agree that the Ukraine is just the start, Putin wants to restore the USSR and the Warsaw Pact with Moscow in full control, but he won't stop there, he'll then add Western Europe.

Of course, if one checks with other search engines, there's the Russian version.

First, start with the old story: 'I was born in Austria, I went to school in Poland, I got my first job in the Soviet Union, and I retired in the Ukraine.'

'You must have done a lot of travelling.'

'I never left the village where I was born.'

The first problem is that, before there was a Poland, there was no Austria, there was the Austrian-Hungarian Empire that covered a lot of southeastern Europe. Then a Serb shot the Archduke of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, and Britain, France, and Russia went to war against Germany, the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, and the Ottoman Empire in WWI.

After the war, the Austrian-Hungarian Empire was broken up into a bunch of small countries, usually with a mixture of people who hated each other so the countries would never be able to agree to go against the UK and France, but would have to do as they were told. Russia lost a big chunk of West Russia to Germany during the war, then, after the UK, France, and the US won the war, that big chunk of West Russia plus a bit more was mostly made part of Poland, and the Ukrainians who hate Russia the most and make the accusations of genocide against the Russians were not in the Ukraine when the Holodomor happened, they were annexed by Stalin and put into the Ukraine during WWII, both those who had been part of the Russian Empire before the war, and many who had been part of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire before the war.

The Russian version is that, in 1928, Stalin wanted all agriculture done in the Communist way, which was supposed to greatly increase agricultural production and make food distribution more fair. In fact, the good Communists put in charge of directing all agriculture knew absolutely nothing about agriculture, and agricultural production fell throughout the USSR resulting in the Holodomor, with many starving all over the USSR, not just the Ukraine, and with some of the other Soviet Socialist Republics having a greater per capita death rate than the Ukraine. The Holodomor ended in 1933 with the end of Stalin's First Five Year Plan.

And the Ukraine grew much larger during and after WWII when Stalin added all that the Russian Empire lost after WWI, plus parts of what had been the Austrian-Hungarian Empire before WWI, and parts of what had been Russia, not Ukraine. Khrushchev also added parts of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Russia to the Soviet Socialist Republic of the Ukraine.

From what I've read, almost every available source in English supports the Ukrainian version of the Holodomor, but the historical facts cannot.

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